2 years ago. oh wow, that's great. It needs to be hotter for the initial weld. Thanks … 6- Homemade Coal Forge. Solid fuel, flux, and a reducing atmosphere are needed. I've done a couple of small welds, so I know I can get to welding heat, but I'm a bit apprehensive about trying something bigger in case there are pitfalls awaiting of which I am not yet aware. See more ideas about Forging, Blacksmith forge… Free Tool List Here https://startblacksmithing.comThis forge is inexpensive (less than $200 of materials) and extremely versatile. Randy thanks for the info. Reply Upvote. Article from islandblacksmith.ca. $750.00 Whisper mamma propane forge Calgary 26/11/2020. The brand is Whitlox, made in Oregon. Aug 19, 2015 - The simplicity of the design of the version 1 retort allowed us to start making charcoal very quickly, but the toll of high heat on the components, the inefficient use of fuel, and the inconsistency of the finished batches left much to… Continue reading → .. your own Pins on Pinterest Denser hardwoods are probably what you're after, if you really want to use wood - I'd give up and grab charcoal and some kind of blower, at least. The cast iron anvil YOU CAN'T FORGE WELD TO---cast iron melts before you reach forge welding temp for steel. Coal Forge linings, revisited By clay, they mean clay of any type but preferably a clay with a placticity like good potters or artists clay. Wood ash is a flux for forge welding; however the efficiency goes way up if you can use charcoal instead of wood . As long as the forge functions correctly (e.g. Blacksmith forges can reach 3,500℉ (1,977℃) if you’re using a coal forge. i guess it would be a pain to buy real coal, but how about making your own charcoal? You don’t want too much flux, because it will just run off on the forge floor and spray around the room like flaming meteors when you set the weld, but assure the billet is fully covered when at welding heat. You won't really need a lid, though once it is built you will want to keep it out of the elements (especially rain). Be aware that controlling the airflow to your fire is a necessary skill to develop. May 31, 2009. Coal, Charcoal, Wood Forge Build Coal, Charcoal, Wood Forge Build. Sep 19, 2019 - This Pin was discovered by Will Kalif. The forge will even reach welding heat provided the fire is deep enough, the coals are sized well, and the draft is properly adjusted. Great job. you're not wasting heat boiling off water and even more important *no* smoke! Not logs, but smaller pieces. A refractory clay or mixture is slightly better but you do not need refractory temperature material for claying a forge. The small amount of Cr in the 5160 loves to pick up any and every sort of impurity in a fire and that can oxidize the Cr and make welding a bit more testy. Do you use just hardwood charcoal or do you mix it up? Rick Marchand Donkey on the Edge Moderator. However, for a residential area, propane gas-driven DIY blacksmith forge is a better idea. ryancrowe92. Yes. Wood/charcoal is a very pure fuel compared to coal---*no* sulfur! The thing is, most of what I read about solid-fuel forge welding is geared towards using coked bituminous (soft) coal rather than the anthracite/rice coal I've come to enjoy. Forge welding in a coal forge can be quite a challenge as it can be very difficult to heat the entire billet evenly and at the same time it's very easy to burn steel in a coal forge. Try using charcoal lighter fluid instead of acetone. Make certain that you are heated through and well soaked and have at … . For this super safe and efficient forge, you will need some fire bricks, a burner, and brass torch tips. You can get an old charcoal grill just about anywhere. To do the weld, you clean the iron, flux it and heat it until the surface of the iron looks a little wet and runny. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider. It certainly doesn't cause any stresses in mild steel that are detrimental to any degree. I have used it, seen it used for forge welding a cable blade, and the fuel is virtually free. KT May 5, 2011 #18. church&son. can you toss up a few bullet points as to what you did (other than the blower)? Opt instead for the products that are marked lump charcoal and still resemble wood. It will weld to non-chrome steels just fine, and to itselfif you can keep the oxides liquid enough to blow out of the scarf on the first blow. Look into coal forge builds. By ryancrowe92, April 15, 2018 in Solid Fuel Forges. 31,610. It was time to upgrade to a gas forge to give some more heat control & efficiency vs my old charcoal 44 gallon forge. Wash the grill thoroughly. Can you really get to welding temp with this forge using charcoal? The Whisper Momma Forge from NC Tool is one of the most popular forges. Thanks bud, I'm inspired. Based on this information, it is hard to determine exactly how hot the charcoal you may use could get in your forge. They work with charcoal too but that gets expensive quickly unless you make your own -Page Dec 27, 2012 #9. Blast it! Community Answer . 583. For welding temp do you have to run your blower full time during the "soak"? Even with this knowledge, I still found it really difficult to make things on a DIY forge. Determine the working range of the metal you are going to forge or weld. Not all forge welding projects require such a high temperature, nor does all types of fuel reach this heat. Charcoal Retort V.2.0 - Crossed Heart Forge. A forge can be any shape you want, although something like an hourglass shaped forge would probably be difficult to make and not very beneficial. As a general rule, you want the steel you’re working to reach about 2,000-2,200°F to be malleable. Discover (and save!) If you have welding skills then you can build this coal forge with metal pipes and metal plates. After the billet is drawn to the proper dimensions, the box or tubing must be ground off of the steel. The website is www.WhitloxHomestead.com The problem you run into with forge welding with "wood" is it has too many impurities in it and i would think that would hinder you from getting to forge welding temps. Many people dedicate a place in their garage or in a shop, but you can forge anywhere that you can safely vent the fumes and smoke of the forge. However, the temperature varies based on the fuel, type of forge, and metal you work with. I've read about Chestnut (now rare) being used for welding, but never seen it done. 8. If it becomes necessary to cut and restack the billet, there are three options. Controlling the temperature is a lot harder. Senior Member; Members; 321 posts; Location Oconee County, … Edited January 21, 2018 by Jeremy ... especially in a gas forge. Jan 6, 2005. Does a wood fire make excess sparks or smoke? Forge weld as described in the wet welding sequence, omitting the flux. Master Forge Charcoal BBQ Propane jet flame igniter to light charcoal easily Very good condition $150 Calls only, no text messages please - 647-300-0719 Favourite. At this temperature, the iron can still be handled with the tongs and has plenty of strength to stay in one piece. The forge is a "Tim Lively", charcoal burning type; a nice versatile design IMO as it can be easily set up for a shorter or longer fire, depending on the desired use. Seemed to weld good using charcoal and borax. It’s the wood charcoal that supplies the intense heat needed to weld. It is a 2 burner forge with a front and backport. Put paper in the bottom part with the holes then put charcoal in the top and get it started then pour the coals into the furnace and fire up your blower. The temperature was easily controlled and I had a slew of tools at my disposal for shaping and cutting metal. Lump charcoal can also be used - using a wood fire for welding is kind of a lost art, and you'll be hard pressed to find many people who can do that successfully. You may wonder, though, about the amount of heat a forge gives off. There is actually a wood burning forge available. instructables. the color should be orange, going to yellow hot. Clay suitable for making bricks is also suitable. My suggestion if you're welding in a coal forge is to concentrate on a 2-3" section of your billet at a time. The only real modification you will make to the grill itself is to construct an air intake, which makes the burn hot enough to soften metal. I got one for free through a local classifieds. ", followed by 639 people on Pinterest. See more ideas about blacksmithing, metal working, blacksmith projects. Best regards Robin May 5, 2011 #17. byoffcr. 0. dnorm . Best of luck. This forge reaches welding temp in 3 minutes. Jan 1, 2009. Posted April 25, 2018. ryancrowe92 . Make sure the weld blows start from one end and from the center out or you won’t expel all the borax from the layers. A fire that is still burning off volatiles throws off sparks. How to Build a Gas Forge Burner You can choose from two forge options, including gas or charcoal. It can be put into a box, the seams can be welded to do another dry weld, or flux can be used to do a wet weld. I have to agree that you most certainly can forge weld without flux, but flux lowers the melting point of the scale and helps to cleanse the weld surface. level 2. The charcoal briquettes you can buy at the grocery store are not a good option for forge fuel. **A cold fire smokes. 9,596. They contain non-carbon fillers and binders which lower the maximum potential temperature of your fire. The view from our backyard forge. The benefits of using a flux far outweigh the problems that are likely to be encountered if you don't use it for most applications. So use a good flux, one that is a bit more "aggressive" than say straight borax. These work up stiff and harden without cracking severly. I learned to weld and forge in a professional workshop. Lastly, you will need a place to put all of this and forge! . Yes, you can use wood for forging. particularily the "wash tub forge" (Page beat me to it). 10 years ago on Step 2. Jun 18, 2019 - Explore WILLIAM TAYLOR JR.'s board "FORGES COAL/CHARCOAL BUILDING RELATED/ETC. If you live where wood is easy to get, using it for free forging fuel is a wise path to self-sufficiency. Aug 20, 2004. Heat, weld, wire brush and reflux immediately after welding, then concentrate on the next section. 443. ... Use an old oval wash tub and follow these detailed instructions to build yourself an inexpensive charcoal forge. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. Mar 18, 2019 - Explore Vaccajohnny's board "Blacksmithing" on Pinterest. Aug 2, ... Not familiar with that forge but any ive ever used It takes a good 12-20min to get the entire bullet to forge welding temps Aug 3, 2020 #10. Air isnt your problem with charcoal. You can buy a charcoal chimney starter for 10 to 12 bucks. I doubt it is ideal for welding in, but it can be done. I weld up coal forges using an old pickup truck brakedrum, a floor flange, and black iron pipe. Iron ... Can I build a brick charcoal forge shaped like an outdoor pizza oven? In contrast, when we burn wood, it results in wood charcoal and continues to burn until it turns to ash.